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Tom Daschle just on ABC News with Peter Jennings.
Jennings asked him if he thought Americans would have to give up some of their freedoms? He said DEFINITELY. That yesterday was a turning point and that we would have to give up some of our freedoms permanently - freedom of movment. I'm just going from memory here as it was very quick. Anyone else hear it?

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Sherri:

That's what Barry Chamish's report tried to articulate, and which I also expounded upon.

Were you not so focused on being angry at GOD, you might have noticed what was said there. Perhaps you should re-read it. It's pretty comprehensive.

Jesse.

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So many of you are relentless. I don't know nor do I care to know your god. I therefore cannot be angry at your god as I don't believe YOUR god exists and is meaningful. He is part of your imagination and is the source of much hatred, anger and bigotry on this planet - christian, jew and islamic - the same god.
Its hard to be angry at something you don't believe exists.

What makes me indignant is the constant tying in of world events to a mythical book that is politically motivated and has been politically motivated, revised and re-written for 2000 years. You and those of you who buy into this are as guilty as those who flew into the buildings yesterday. You are responsible. I resent what you are doing to this planet with your belief system - and that is all that it is. Your belief system which is not relevant to the majority of people on this planet.

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Sheri, at this particular instant in time, if you wish to continue your anti-religion ranting, I will require that you do so in TIO SIG.

DO NOT clog up the main board with it tight now, okay?

Thank you.

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Well, it seems to me that the underlying reason for everything that is happening is religion out of control.

So, let me get this straight, pages and pages of pro-religion ranting can continue?

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If you wish to continue this discussion, either with me or anyone else right now, take it outside. End of story.

Be a raving Atheist (and good Socialist) on the main board some other time, if you don't mind. (Or even if you do.)

Sorry, but that's the way it's going to be for the near-term.

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Sheri- Im not going to attack you or your lack of faith. I only hope that you take this in the spirit in which it is intended. Those of us that believe take comfort in knowing that our god(s) are there for us to help us through this. You might not believe, and Im not going to try and convert you. All I ask is that you show this same respect to those on the board that do believe.

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My advice to you Sheri is to go and haunt another board somewhere in Europe. NOW is NOT THE TIME to go bashing the beliefs of so many that just suffered an attack on their fundamental beliefs, way of life and freedom.

At the moment, your rantings are putting you in the same category of the people that HATE our beliefs and just destroyed thousands of lives.

Keep it up and we will look on you the same way. You hate our beliefs in God - they hated our beliefs in God.

Don't go there.

You will have righteous indignation heaped upon your head, just because you are an available target and you will have deserved it.

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I refer you to the title of this thread which is the purpose for the thread. That says it all.

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Folks, you aparently didn't notice that Sheri did NOT initiate the thread drift. That was a RESPONSE.

Denis and Invar, you are both wrong on this one.

C


BUT back to the subject of the thread. If they DO initiate a set of new restrictions, it will be our job to remove them from office. Though there is precious little power left in the Ballot box, and the soapbox has been powerless for years, which leaves........


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Back to the topic. -- Which is IMPORTANT.

Kay Bailey Hutchinson said basically the same thing.

Gephardt, in his address to Congress, ranted for 10 minutes on how the assault on our FREEDOM (shouted by him at least a dozen times) would not be tolerated. Then he said, and this is a pretty close paraphrasing, “Yesterday the nature of freedom changed. [At which point I jumped out of my chair and yelled “F$^k you!” at the TV screen.] Now we will have to come to an agreement with *our people* [Yeah, right. They own us.] about the new balance that must be struck between freedom and security.”

On the positive side, about an hour or so later, Donald Rumsfeld spoke very aggressively about how the evil purpose of terrorism was to force people to sacrifice freedom for security. Rumsfeld also spoke strongly about the lax attitude that had developed regarding protection of classified information.

BTW, after having spent a good part of the afternoon watching Bush cabinet members’ press conferences I came away with the sense that I was very glad these men were at the helm and not Clinton’s politically correct inept bunch of boobs.

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I just wish one of the flight attendants or pilots would have pulled a little .38 out of his pocket and blown the bastards away! Now, THAT is freedom, my friends. Freedom to protect oneself and others!

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Thanks Chuck and SensesOn. Please everyone, we have to pay attention very carefully to this as this is the underlying plan. Note WHO says what and we have to keep track of them and educate them as to what we will accept and what we won't.
Start keeping a list of those who seem to accept or advocate loss of our freedomes and those that DON'T. Let's start keeping a list.

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Of course for years on TB2K we've all found articles and blatant "clues" that TPTB were wailing about vulnerability to "terrorism" and substituting "terrorism" for Y2K. Threads in archives chronicle the Forum's discovery of .gov .mil documents outlining the WITHDRAWING OF FREEDOM and the Constitution in the face of "terrorism."

For us, A & L, the MOST startling and horrifying trigger that put us up to a 9 on the Y2K Scale was the sudden death by heart attack of the Emir of Bahrain just moments after he was talking to Cohen about Y2K "terrorism." Some intel so horrendous and factually based killed the leader.

So naturally we're sensitive about any possible ploy the JBTs / NWO / Goons might be stringing behind the scenes to deprive Americans of their Constitutional freedoms in the name of "security."

Once the shock of the televised Kamakazi Plane Missiles and Collapses subsides, the stench of Corrupted Plot will fill our noses and make us wonder ...

This is all just too close to TB2K speculations and scenarios past ...

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NO Chuck.....I AM NOT WRONG. I am responding to THIS comment of Sheri's:

You and those of you who buy into this are as guilty as those who flew into the buildings yesterday. You are responsible. I resent what you are doing to this planet with your belief system - and that is all that it is. Your belief system which is not relevant to the majority of people on this planet.

The bitch might as well have been from Hamaas for all I care with that f*cking statement.

I don't give a shit what protocols or thread etiquette I am supposed to regard here. The bitch just INSULTED and attacked a huge number of people that are devout and BLAMED THEM for what the f*cking terrorists did yesterday.

THAT IS INTOLERABLE. I will not let that sit without putting blood on the blade after what we're suffering from at the moment. If the bitch is stupid enough to make herself a target with inane comments such as that after a horror such as this, then she befits the role of punching bag and I for one will vent all my anguish upon her.

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ON TOPIC:

Those morons walking the offices of power that suggest we surrender freedom for a little "inconveneince" and security - might as well hand Bin Laden the keys to Washington D.C. and vacate the White House for new Decorators from Afghanistan as far as I'm concerned.

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Thanks Invar for once again showing us who you are and what a loving christian you are.

Cascadians - remind me about the Emir of Bahrain situation?

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Well, right or wrong, I agree completely with INVAR on this. That statement from Sheri is beyond the pale. She is no longer "of the U.S>", having moved lock, stock and barrel to the socialist paradise of Britain. She is welcome to stay there.

This thread is CLOSED.

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